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do you think the obama camp knew mr. romney would be ready with the 47% question answer and decided not give him the chance to clear it up with 65, 67 million people watching? >> definitely a missed opportunity. you see it today. they're going to keep attacking him noor video and keep attacking him on bain and you're seeing him release the president's campaign release another -- >> pardon? go ahead. i'm sorry. interrupted? somebody talk in your ear. >> sorry about that. >> finish your thought. >> you're going to see them attack again. they're going to keep attacking on -- keep saying that mitt romney is bending the truth. that's something you're going to see in the coming weeks. you're going to see them talk -- they released a campaign ad today appearing in eight swing states and you'll see them continue to the portray that in the comes weeks. >> it's an acquired skill, talking in your ear in the middle of a sentence. >> totally. i didn't know where i was for a minute. >> it's all good. saying it wasn't me. we're going t
do you think the obama camp knew mr. romney would be ready with the 47% question answer and decided not give him the chance to clear it up with 65, 67 million people watching? >> definitely a missed opportunity. you see it today. they're going to keep attacking him noor video and keep attacking him on bain and you're seeing him release the president's campaign release another -- >> pardon? go ahead. i'm sorry. interrupted? somebody talk in your ear. >> sorry about that....
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president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went wrong here but that is not really what went wrong here, and making the case that it was what went wrong does not help your candidate. the worst example of this though, the invention of a comforting new parallel reality that does not mean you have to face hard truths. the worst new instance of this is how the right today responded to the new jobs numbers. today the unemployment rate dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%. it didn'
president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep...
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halloween display shows president obama in a web. you said it was cool this thr was a hamel -- there was a hammer on the money bag? it was a dollar sign. part was hidden. jay oh golly. color me all red all over the place. i have never been as embarrassed as i am at this moment other than when i jumped over the bus and found it was filled with avon cologne. >> it is avon or jovan. >> jovan. >> pab, you said this is stupid, but they have a right to show the president in a spider web. you put a black man in a web, it is clearly a spider whistle. >> nobody thought about that. >> this rampant racial accusation is why we rarely ever see a black spider-man. >> it is true. he had the black costumes for awhile. >> yes. >> and there was a campaign to get donald glover the new spider-man. which i was a part of. >> the fact that you know that and are involved in that is a sad thing. >> he would have been a great spider-man. i was not involved in a petition. i don't sign petitions. i don't do that. you know that about me. >> he was trying to get
halloween display shows president obama in a web. you said it was cool this thr was a hamel -- there was a hammer on the money bag? it was a dollar sign. part was hidden. jay oh golly. color me all red all over the place. i have never been as embarrassed as i am at this moment other than when i jumped over the bus and found it was filled with avon cologne. >> it is avon or jovan. >> jovan. >> pab, you said this is stupid, but they have a right to show the president in a spider...
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that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second term. i know-- >> no complacency. >> eliot: all caveats aside. >> i think a better direction and no complacency. >> eliot: that's exactly right. the pennsylvania voting i.d. structure top texas struck down. the courts are doing something hugely important. the rule of law is being established as a foundation piece of the electoral process once again. >> that is important. >> eliot: back to my question. second term you have been critical of president obama on issues of civil liberties foreign policies, where do you see him going? >> on that front we have an editorial in our last issue. i would call it the election editorial but we do say reelect president obama. because the stakes are too high. but the forward movement, we saw gay rights. we need to stand up and say we're not secure with the escalation of drone wars or viol
that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second term. i know-- >> no complacency. >> eliot: all caveats aside. >> i think a better direction and no complacency. >> eliot: that's exactly right. the pennsylvania voting i.d. structure top texas struck down. the courts are doing something hugely important. the...
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that is not a number barack obama should be crowing about. not a number mitt romney should be accusatory about. barack obama has created more jobs while in office than were lost, but mitt romney points out correctly, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this fits perfectly into this narrative of a country that's divided because it's a little bit good news. not a lot, and it leaves everybody with room to argue. >> symbolically, it was a victory for the white house to get that unemployment rate under 8% along with just about everybody else. i predicted that would be the key to obama winning re-election, but objectivel
that is not a number barack obama should be crowing about. not a number mitt romney should be accusatory about. barack obama has created more jobs while in office than were lost, but mitt romney points out correctly, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that...
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not quoting any then claim and i'm not quoting obama or hurting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying their words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right now no wonder they don't hear you say ninety two times and is twenty romney was not really wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so worried about both candidates are going to grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go wherever your freedom riders are you know they're going to go about us remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got to have liberty for the koch brothers i get it you know we've got to
not quoting any then claim and i'm not quoting obama or hurting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying their words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right now no wonder they don't hear you say ninety two times and is twenty romney was not really wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so...
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compare the obama recovery to reagan. obama's behind by $6.9 million jobs and probably more important, it's per capita. disposable income that a lot of social scientists have found is the real key to getting re-elected and that number doesn't look too good for obama. >> you raised a number. the symbolism and how people feel about it. let's look at a cnn poll from last month. 67% of registered voters expect conditions will be good a year from now. daniel, what do you think? 31% say worse. are they right, are they wrong? >> the economy will be better, but it's a question of how much better. let's not forget obama promised if he enacted his so-called stimulus, by today, the unemployment rate would be down to 5.5%. so, something's gone wrong. if you look at the minneapolis federal reserve website, there's an interactive feature that allows you to look at all the the business cycles since world war ii. it's the worst gdp performance and jobs perform ann of any president. things are getting better, but at such an anemic rate. >
compare the obama recovery to reagan. obama's behind by $6.9 million jobs and probably more important, it's per capita. disposable income that a lot of social scientists have found is the real key to getting re-elected and that number doesn't look too good for obama. >> you raised a number. the symbolism and how people feel about it. let's look at a cnn poll from last month. 67% of registered voters expect conditions will be good a year from now. daniel, what do you think? 31% say worse....
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if obama is reelected, president obama, and democrats hold on to the senate, there is no way you can repeal every syllable obamacare. what then? >> it will be very difficult if that happens. that is why it is important that we defeat barack obama in november and that we retire harry reid in november. one of the biggest differences between my opponent and me would be the very first vote mr. sadler would cast if he were elected, which would be to vote for harry reid to be majority leader. harry reid has been the most irresponsible majority leader we have ever seen. the last three years, under his leadership, the senate has not passed a budget. >> i have to respond to this. i do not know who i would vote for majority leader, but we know who you not vote for, john cornyn. if the republicans gain control of the senate -- you have said twice, on two occasions, you would not guarantee you would support john cornyn. that is because your money comes from jim demint. if you are interested texas, how could do not support our senior senator majority leader in the abandoned the majority party if
if obama is reelected, president obama, and democrats hold on to the senate, there is no way you can repeal every syllable obamacare. what then? >> it will be very difficult if that happens. that is why it is important that we defeat barack obama in november and that we retire harry reid in november. one of the biggest differences between my opponent and me would be the very first vote mr. sadler would cast if he were elected, which would be to vote for harry reid to be majority leader....
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it has more than doubled since president obama took office. and, in fact, in places like california, goodness, $4.50, almost $5 and that leaves many americans with a who'll lot less money in their wallets, to spend on other things. that, in turn, is hurting retailers, it is hurting small business owners, doesn't that kind of economic stress caused by the high gasoline prices weigh against the president? >> well, the good news is, i mean, just to answer it straightforward, it is hard, people don't want to spend more money and they'd want to spend less and what the president has going for him is total employment has gone up by 3 million, since this time a year ago and the unemployment rate went from 9% to 7.8... >> gregg: you are still 4.5 million jobs behind, right? >> in the past year we have gained 3 million jobs and since the depth o-the recession, gained 5 million. >> gregg: but you are not where you wanted to be, normally in a recovery, you should be up about 4.5 -- >> remember, though, like ronald reagan, in his re-election effort, the un
it has more than doubled since president obama took office. and, in fact, in places like california, goodness, $4.50, almost $5 and that leaves many americans with a who'll lot less money in their wallets, to spend on other things. that, in turn, is hurting retailers, it is hurting small business owners, doesn't that kind of economic stress caused by the high gasoline prices weigh against the president? >> well, the good news is, i mean, just to answer it straightforward, it is hard,...
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. >>> a drop in the unemployment rate is giving president obama some ammunition to recover from what some are calling a weak debate performance. for the first time in his presidency, the jobless rate is below 8%. danielle lee has more on how both campaigns are using those numbers to their advantage in this morning's commitment 2012. >> at a rally in virginia, a smiling president obama took full advantage of september's job report. >> more americans entered the work force. more are getting jobbed. >> the unemployment rate fell to 7.8%, marking the first time it had been below 8% in his presidency. >> today's news is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. >> political points is what mitt romney was going for while talking to voters in virginia. >> the president calls his policies going forward. i call them forewarned. >> the unemployment rate fell because people gave up. >> when i'm president of the united states -- that unemployment rate is going to come down not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work force. we're creating mor
. >>> a drop in the unemployment rate is giving president obama some ammunition to recover from what some are calling a weak debate performance. for the first time in his presidency, the jobless rate is below 8%. danielle lee has more on how both campaigns are using those numbers to their advantage in this morning's commitment 2012. >> at a rally in virginia, a smiling president obama took full advantage of september's job report. >> more americans entered the work force....
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president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next thursday night. paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the debate. he's spending time with chris van
president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next...
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obama became president, the unemployment rate would be 10%. if we had same percentage of people looking for work today looking when unemployment rate peaked at 10% the unemployment rate today would still be 9.7 using that household data. which means most effective employment program the obama administration has been able to come up with is persuade people to leave the labor force. mr. obama managed to drive down number of adults that want a job. that is a great way to drive unemployment down. i would think the other guest would consider that. melissa: gary, last word before we go. >> look the employment rate has risen in last few months. there is no doubt about that. i don't understand this labor force participants rate idea. yes the participation rate is lower when the economy was expanding strongly. yes, that's true but the fact of the matter is, employment has been rising over the last three years, period. it is just not rising fast enough to put a big a dent in unemployment rate as we would all like to see, period. melissa: gentlemen, grea
obama became president, the unemployment rate would be 10%. if we had same percentage of people looking for work today looking when unemployment rate peaked at 10% the unemployment rate today would still be 9.7 using that household data. which means most effective employment program the obama administration has been able to come up with is persuade people to leave the labor force. mr. obama managed to drive down number of adults that want a job. that is a great way to drive unemployment down. i...
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the reality is those numbers help obama tremendously. at the same time, obama has the opportunity now to come back and do what he did the very next day. i think that was a key day for him. >> if he had that sort of debate performance and then we'd gotten job numbers that had us stuck at 8.2, then you start talking about a crisis at that point for the campaign. >> we have a chance to make it a much bigger story, precisely because the republicans have been so nice to us and delivered, for example, jack welch. the numbers were entirely fixed. he's been chimed in this morning by steve forbes, also said these have been fixed numbers. they intended for them to go down precisely under 8% before the election started. this is some crazy stuff going on on the right here. that might generate enough interest to make the debate -- >> i just want to -- just in case anyone has been sleeping under a rock on friday or something. i just wanted to show what jack welch's response was, it was a tweeted response that got picked up in the news where he basical
the reality is those numbers help obama tremendously. at the same time, obama has the opportunity now to come back and do what he did the very next day. i think that was a key day for him. >> if he had that sort of debate performance and then we'd gotten job numbers that had us stuck at 8.2, then you start talking about a crisis at that point for the campaign. >> we have a chance to make it a much bigger story, precisely because the republicans have been so nice to us and delivered,...
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to vote for president obama, anyway. and i think actually it's probably going to go away fairly quickly just because the romney campaign doesn't want to really touch this. >> the fact that he has to talking about mitt romney has to drop his line about the 8 plus percent from his campaign speeches, how much does that hurt him? >> as i said, he's been saying 8%. the president has been promising 8%. he hasn't delivered. that's one of the main attacks governor romney has been using, he's been bringing up that number repeatedly on the campaign trail. yesterday what you saw was the governor sort of switched and talking about 11% number which is the number if everybody was still looking -- the amount of people still looking for jobs from 2008 were looking now it would would be 11. he's going to say we haven't done enough. president obama acknowledged that in his remarks saying what we've been doing month after month, we're making headway, adding jobs each month but we haven't done enough. >> susan, back to wednesday night here.
to vote for president obama, anyway. and i think actually it's probably going to go away fairly quickly just because the romney campaign doesn't want to really touch this. >> the fact that he has to talking about mitt romney has to drop his line about the 8 plus percent from his campaign speeches, how much does that hurt him? >> as i said, he's been saying 8%. the president has been promising 8%. he hasn't delivered. that's one of the main attacks governor romney has been using,...
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you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to the point about wages, what do we find out there from the release of the report? guest: i do not know the exact details of the report in terms of wages going up or down. he makes a good point. wages are important. welfare is something that president obama and mitt romney have been trading barbs over as to whether the president is someone capable of turning this country into a place where people do not have to rely so much on government subsidies because they are out of work. i think that issue is very politically charged and we will see it debated in the comi
you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to...
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exist in our leisure world where it's all sunny and pink rainbows and sunshine coming out of barack obama spent trying there's nothing wrong that could ever befall us it's all it's or play rated and we're all or cents on the dollar. so remember it's all about perception and it's a currency war and you want to avoid the hyperinflationary chicken so you would have noted watching kaiser report when we interviewed chris cook recently he had just come back from tehran where he said the price of chicken had doubled in a day and that was a warning sign he said and sure enough we see the iranian reale collapsing hyperinflationary currency collapse is leading to big anti regime protests in iran right so there you have it gold making a new all time highs against the euro against the swiss franc currency collapse iranian rio people on the streets now going to the central bank so this is the global insurrection against banker occupation this is them manifesting itself on the streets of tehran and this is what occupy wall street is all about this with the tea party is all about if they were honest wit
exist in our leisure world where it's all sunny and pink rainbows and sunshine coming out of barack obama spent trying there's nothing wrong that could ever befall us it's all it's or play rated and we're all or cents on the dollar. so remember it's all about perception and it's a currency war and you want to avoid the hyperinflationary chicken so you would have noted watching kaiser report when we interviewed chris cook recently he had just come back from tehran where he said the price of...
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president obama was then-senator obama -- guest: your command of the numbers is terrific. the question about the media. it is linked, let's be honest -- you have to have strong voices inside the democratic party and strong voices outside in the movements of our time and independent media to call the mainstream media, and we can discuss what mainstream media means, but there is a mainstream establishment media which has as its working premise the idea of the cult of balance, something our media columnist, eric alterman, has written a lot about. if someone went on to the floor of congress and said the earth is flat, the media would write about both sides as if both were true. i mentioned norm ornstein earlier. he is no liberal progressive. he is sort of right of center, he is at the american enterprise institute. thomas mann at brookings wrote a book that had a large section about the failures of the media to call out untruths. we have a lot more fact checking in the media, which has its ups and downs. at the debate last night, they fact-checked obama on the $5 trillion defi
president obama was then-senator obama -- guest: your command of the numbers is terrific. the question about the media. it is linked, let's be honest -- you have to have strong voices inside the democratic party and strong voices outside in the movements of our time and independent media to call the mainstream media, and we can discuss what mainstream media means, but there is a mainstream establishment media which has as its working premise the idea of the cult of balance, something our media...
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while romney launches tv ads promising to do better than president obama -- >> i have a detailed plan to create 12 million new jobs. >> -- obama is celebrating this report. >> this country has come too far to turn back now. >> a bench mark, he says, proves america is on the right track. economists say the number of new jobs being created is still not enough to significantly lower the unemployment rate. the next jobs report comes out just four days before the election. in washington, i'm danielle lee, nbc news. >>> looking for something to do this weekend why not check out a movie. got your box office preview. >>> but first a ground breaking lawsuit aims to let registered second offenders decorate their homes for halloween. what it has to do with constitutional rights. >>> something you may want to do this weekend is break out the sweaters and jackets. the insta weather plus forecast just ahead. barnhill: you hear a lot of talk about question seven... so let me tell you what i know: if question seven passes, my company's going to... bring table games, like blackjack and poker... right
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let me tell you how i will create 12 million jobs when president obama couldn't. first, my energy independence policy means more than three million new jobs. many of them in manufacturing. my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and for small business creates seven million more. and expanding trade, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. >>> good morning everyone. welcome to news 4 today. i'm angie goff. >> i'm richard jordan. it is saturday, october 6th. time to get a check on ur forecast. >> that is why meteorologist chuck bell is standing by. surprised me out there. you're out in the elements. >> absolutely right. a beautiful morning to be outside. today short sleeve weather for sure. if you're going to spend any time outside today shorts and t-shirts is all you'll need though we won't be in the 80s like the last couple days. it is still going to be awfully nice to be in the great outdoors today. plenty of sunshine coming through the sky here in northwe
let me tell you how i will create 12 million jobs when president obama couldn't. first, my energy independence policy means more than three million new jobs. many of them in manufacturing. my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and for small business creates seven million more. and expanding trade, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. >>> good morning everyone. welcome to...